You know the 1914, right? Well, the 12 tooth is just like the 11 tooth ... but it has 12 teeth. It also has lugs fixed to the sides of the baseplate like the 1924 to hold the blade laterally, rather than the sprung clip you're used to with 1914s.
One tell tale sign is that the back of the cap will have the two dots AND a line between them. The other is that the side retaining lugs are fixed to the baseplate like the 1924 rather than sprung under the whole baseplate.
How many '14s do you have, Bob? I'm at 9 now.
Early with stropper handle - Co Inc/Patent Pending [Replated] Early with knurled handle - Co Inc/Patent Pending [Replated] Early with knurled handle - Co Inc/Patented [Replated] Early with knurled handle - Co Inc/Patented [Khaki Set] Medium (nubs for blade stops) with hex handle - Co Inc/Patented [Sport Set] Later style (hooks for blade stops) with hex handle - Co Inc/Patented [Town Set] Later style with hex handle - Corp/Patented [Shaver Grade] Late style (12 tooth) with fluted hex handle - Corp/Patented [Mahoganite] Late style (12 tooth) with hex handle - Corp/Patented [This Set]
Beautiful! That could be a 'Touring' Set which was launched c.1924. I believe the 12 tooth are the very last of the 1914s and correspond exactly to the 'Test Outfit' razors of 1921 onwards (Star & GEM), essentially a capless 1914, 12 tooth, lugs as part of the baseplate and with the later thread handle. I think your nickel case there will be one of the very last of the 1914s, well into the '20s if not late '20s. Very nice!
Here are the 'Test Outfit' razors I mentioned ... essentially, capless 1914s, later thread handles and 12 teeth.
They were cheap, stripped down razors given away with packs of blades in the early '20s: for GEM, their "marvellous" Double Life blades; Star, their "marvellous" Cru-Steel blades.
I'm going to guess that whichever factory or night shift made these were later consigned to the final runs of the 1914 before it was withdrawn. They settled on the 12 tooth for those last production runs. I'm guessing ...
So the ER 1914 that I just acquired to go in my "Town Set" case also has 12 teeth, but look at the handle that came with it:
And there's no line between the dots on the back of my 12 tooth either...
It still amazes me that ASR razors up to 1940 are so variegated - lots of frame, cap and handle variations on the same basic design. This isn't the case with Gillettes from the same period, so I wonder what it's attributable to? Why would there be so many variations in the tooling, like the different numbers of teeth on the ER 1914s, and the shapes of the comb and cap on the 1912s and ER 1924s?
birdlives: They probably did that because they had a ninja shaver armed with an unmentionable contracted from B&B to make the shave....get your attorney to get full disclosure and video of the shave. If you were touched by a unmentionable, 'sic Fuzzy on them!!
Sept 16, 2017 14:02:47 GMT -6
RocketMan: My wife is a nurse at a local hospital and brought me home a razor they use for such fun - it is an UM style (unmentionable!) made of plastic and dull as a a Derby blade run over some sandpaper - maybe one of those was used???????
Sept 17, 2017 18:28:54 GMT -6
wchnu: Yup Ibet your right. Prolly gave him koodies too.
Sept 17, 2017 18:39:39 GMT -6
wchnu: If I liked him more I might actually feel bad about that.
Sept 17, 2017 18:54:02 GMT -6
wchnu: Did I type...THAT... Outloud???? Oops
Sept 17, 2017 18:54:28 GMT -6
birdlives: I hear nothing....I see nothing.....Hospital Koodies.......Yeaagh!!!! A DE with a Derby!!! NOPE!!! I hear nothing...I see nothing...If I go under the anesthesia, I'm taking someone I can trust to WATCH all that business....I can trust you guys, RIGHT ?
Sept 17, 2017 19:18:03 GMT -6
wchnu: Why yessss you can...uhhuh,..sure can...most the time anyway.
Sept 17, 2017 19:35:00 GMT -6
birdlives: What about that Canadian Rocket Dood? Can I trust him too?
Sept 17, 2017 19:38:22 GMT -6
wchnu: Hard to say....but prolly so.
Sept 17, 2017 22:40:17 GMT -6
GarnerPW: I just read what you wrote there Fuzz or should I say Mr. Fuzz. And all this time I thought you liked me.
Sept 18, 2017 4:38:29 GMT -6
GarnerPW: Don't trust him there Bird. You know what they say, "You can't trust the Man/Fuzz". The Canuck, is alright though.
Sept 18, 2017 4:43:20 GMT -6
birdlives: I don't know......Have you seen what that crazy Canuck does in a bath tub?
Sept 18, 2017 13:31:26 GMT -6
GarnerPW: No what???
Sept 18, 2017 13:33:24 GMT -6
Alan: Boy, I thought I was going nuts, so I stared at it for a while and realized Riverruns avatar winks.
Sept 19, 2017 21:29:17 GMT -6
birdlives: ALAN!!.....Uh...Oh....you're right! That could be dangerous! This might be a case for the avatar police! I stetched his avatar as big as my i-Pad screen...Bam! It blinked and I jumped...lol!
Sept 20, 2017 2:04:25 GMT -6