Yes, shipping individual items to the US from Germany is never really an option. Insured shipping is incredibly expensive.
Just sit and wait patiently. Reviews from other European forums are extremely favourable, with scent being the kicker. These products are completely out of the ordinary as far as scents are concerned. If you are used to standard scents, you might find them over the top. I find them exciting. Their Dark Limes scent beats any other lime scent I know, including Castle Forbes.
These simply are incredible products. Expensive, yes, but worth it in my opinion.
Living in Europe is making it easer to buy and receive Meisner Tremonia though I am struggling to get those very good US artisan made soap - I have a bunch of them
Here is my today acquisition
The parcel came late morning and I had obviously already shaved ...
First impressions are really good - the smells are outstanding and the Dark Limes is to die for ...
If you appreciate a 30 years old whiskey - that's what you get with the Strong 'N Scottish when the Himalayan Height will give you a nice a fresh scent as if you were sitting in the snow in the mountains ...
I am not joking.
I am looking forward to test one of them in the morning and let you know about it - it looks there were diverging opinions.
Fram, your antagonistic posts are becoming a bit stale. Would you mind stalking somebody else for a change?
"Quite pricey" is very relative. Martin de Candre is up to twice as expensive, depending on where you shop. Both are equally efficient, with Meißner offering superior glide and skin care. Proraso is seemingly cheaper, but miserably fails in the efficiency department, making it several times as expensive as Meißner Tremonia. Mind you, the same goes true for any high quality shaving soap, including, but not limited to, Baume.be, Esbjerg, Golddachs, Green Moutain Soap, Klar, Mühle... Unless somebody comes up with a repeatable process for measuring the price per shave, "pricey" is, well, relative. Add to that the price of high quality ingredients, of which most "artisan" products I know contain next to none, Meißner Tremonia becomes a real steal. As I said, it is all relative.
Oh, and just for the chuckles, where did you read "the mixed reviews"? Yes, there was a problem with their very first batch, because one of their suppliers managed to ship a faulty oil. Mind you, proficient users were still able to comfortably lather these products, yet buyers were offered replacements with a generous rebate nevertheless. An uncomfortable situation well handled. To put things into perspective, I was recently given a tub of the once hyped HTGAM "soap", as well as its successors and a random assortment of US "artisan" products. Even my faulty Meißner soap outperforms that stuff. Then again, any $.99 supermarket soap would.
As for Scottish Fine Soaps, do you really need a video to show you that your problem is a layer eight one? Oh, wait, here is one in Spanish for you...
So tell me, Fram, why do you find it difficult to admit that maybe, just maybe, the fact that the company has been selling this product for years might, quite strongly, hint at the fact that there is something wrong with your technique? Maybe this will help: The product has been working for several friends and I, except one guy in Sweden whose water kills almost any shaving product, for years. If it does not work for you, that just means that it does not work for you. As in, it works for everyone else.
Last Edit: Apr 14, 2015 15:24:07 GMT -6 by BeBerlin
Excellent! Connaught's in the UK are not stocking this: www.connaughtshaving.com/meissner.html ... I'm just mulling over the scent to try and think it'll be the Scottish one as I do like my sheep wool fat soap and I do like a peaty whisky (without an e ... or an 'E').
The venerable Giovanni Trappatoni would have said, "il gatto è fuori dal sacco." Please be advised that these are beta test products, and not for sale. I fail to see how they could be improved any further, but that is where we stand.
That said, the new scents are not for the faint of heart. Your fragrance descriptions are spot on, and none of them are crowd pleasers. I used to live next door-ish to one of the leading shops for manufactured perfumes, and the effect is quite similar. Think Blenheim Bouqet, only more divisive. However, I really, really like two of them, especially the Black Pepper & Coriander. Genius. And even the almond is not sickeningly sweet, my main problem with US artisan soaps.
So, good stuff all around. Very nice lather, stellar skin care, equally stellar efficiency. What's not to like? Maybe the fact that you cannot buy them yet
Last Edit: Jun 15, 2015 8:03:30 GMT -6 by BeBerlin
Absolutely! Certainly not for the faint of heart, however ... when lathered up with the scents, they are not quite as pervasive as when they are in the tubs. I find the transparent brown soaps initially carry the scent up the nostrils much more fiercely than the soft paste soaps (another beta-formula, containing honey).
Bay & Rum, I've tried. Black Pepper & Coriander is on the slate for tonight's shave. Guaiacwood & Bergamot, Stone Pine & Cypress and Bitter Almond & Texas Cedar for the rest of the week ...
Guaiacwood & Bergamot is a favourite from scent alone. Puig Quorum Silver is a nice follow-on EDT. It's deep, tarry, heady and yet light and spritzy, too. That, and the Bitter Almond. I absolutely hate almond scents. I don't really like eating 'em either. But, Bitter Almond is something else. Black Pepper & Coriander, though ... Whooo-ee! I get it. I even quite like it, but what a scent! Divisive, indeed. DR Harris Windsor has a faint nod towards this scent.
Who's getting anything specific out of the addition of honey? I'm not sensing it in the smell, but there is a sweetness to the lather although I notice organic cane sugar is also in the ingredients.
I've posted link to italian forum while translating it with Google is easy. I've noticed a great job on ingredients ... as a specific tool to greasy skin and imperfection prone. My skin is of this kind, and after few days of use I've for real a baby butt skin, after the shave and over the day!!
Resins are used with disinfectant intent. Honey is in the middle. Cane Sugar is for helping new skin coming out ... if you want, peeling. Technically, a wonderful soap ... with best skin care and shaving skills.
IMHO, just frags are quite difficult ... too dark & smokey ... to be loved at first time. BTW, Bitter Almond & Texas Cedar is one of my favs ever. Hope that "coming soon" ... will be sooner!!
Where there is a great desire there can be no great difficulty - Machiavelli & Me My files: Tools & On Sale & SOTD & Music & Movie Regards, Pierpaolo
Thanks to Pierpaolo, who had the patience and dedication to organize and coordinate a group order for our italian shaving forum from Mr.Meissner, I had the chance to buy 2 hard soaps, the Himalayan Heights and the Strong & Scottish and I've been using them for a while now.
I am no conoisseur but from time to time I enjoy a good glass of Single Malt Scotch Whisky (Glenmorangie and Dalwhinnie being my favourites,by the way) so I really came to love the Strong & Scottish both for its scent and for its performance.
As for the Himalayan Heights, though I appreciate the subtle and salty cedar scent, I have to accept that it simply doesn't work for me: it gives me an itchy feeling to the skin which is tolerable on the first pass but it gets very strong and unpleasant from the second on, and at the end of the shave the skin feels very stressed. I don't know why this happens, and it is quite strange since I never experienced anything similar, not even with the cheapest soaps, let alone the high-end ones. Has anyone had the same experience?
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