Discussing the Rolls on another forum, a guy called kcb5150 wondered what would happen if you pasted the case strop, so I tried it.
I pasted the case strop with ferric oxide and baby oil then stropped a previously honed blade vigorously in the case before shaving.
The result was superb and my best Rolls shave ever, a smooth comfortable BBS. At last in the 21st century, we've got the Rolls razor working properly. Now the blade actually can be maintained and improved in the case, it's the perfect razor
I have found that putting the case with ends open on top of a hone works well. No need to mess with abrasives on the built-in leather.
This is for maintenance after the blade has been honed. It means the blade can be improved and maintained in the case, as Rolls originally intended. It also makes the Rolls into a self-contained and portable system.
Took another Rolls blade through a full slate and crox progression before stropping it on the pasted case strop tonight. Shaved with it for another awesome shave - it works, it works, it works!
Yes, that is what I meant. I use a local hone to this purpose. A blade needs this kind of fresh-up every 50 or so shaves if one uses the built-in strop in between. Another reason why I prefer the Lather Catcher & Allegro combination.
Yes - there should be another category for "maintainable blade" safety razors like the Rolls, Durham Duplex and all those SEs which use the wedge blades. I'd be interested to know how well those original Wilkinson Sword wedge blades would work after being taken through a progression like this Rolls blade was.
Just when I think I'm safe I stumble across threads like this...
I've been toying with trying a straight for a while now but have managed to suppress the urge so far, which is just as well considering the initial financial outlay. Then Paul starts dangling dog dressers in front of me promising shaves the likes of which I've never had before, ones that will provide a smooth shave whilst also leaving my nose wet and my coat all shiny. Then I start looking at Valets and now Rolls... I had been considering the CJB Kamisori with some feather pro guards as an inexpensive (relatively) introduction to the world of straights but now I don't know what to go for next.
I must admit that I really like the sustainability aspect of the Rolls and its ilk. A good condition set with a few spare blades and you could be set for life. Having checked out a few youtube videos too, it's an absolute marvel of design, simplicity and engineering.
I took the blade through the same.progression as I use for my straight razors - honing with mineral oil, I set the bevel on a coarse (1.2k) synthetic stone then progressed through Dragon's Tongue slate, Yellow Lake slate and Welsh Purple slate before stropping with chromium oxide on balsa. I didn't use the hone in the case at all, but finished by stropping the blade in the Rolls case on the original strop which I had impregnated with ferric oxide.
I removed the blade from the case and honed it with the spine resting on the stones - if you do this then it's vital that you initially set a new bevel on the blade, since the angle it makes with the stones like this is different from the angle it makes when mounted in the case (where the clip raises it slightly).
Others have tried taping the spine to maintain the original angle, and beberlin's excellent suggestion of taking both sides off the case then placing it on top of the hone would also keep that angle since the blade is still mounted on the clip.
Once the blade has gone through a full progression like this, then stropping it on the pasted strop will keep it sharp for a long long time
I got my new Viscount today. This is a very late model from the 1950s and (unlike my earlier Imperial model which has a piece of leather) the case strop is actually a piece of chipboard pasted with what looks like ferric oxide. Obviously the move to pasting the case strop is a natural developement and I 'll be interested to see how this compares with the leather.
Mint blade, strop and hone with instructions, list of dealers and quality inspection slip. Unlike the weighty Imperial, there's something quite sleek and futuristic about the aluminium Viscount. I'm fascinated to see how the chipboard strop works too. I've just repasted it.
wchnu: I would sue if they did not use a proper razor.
Sept 15, 2017 18:51:35 GMT -6
GarnerPW: I was not conscious when I was shave. They slipped me a mickey.
Sept 16, 2017 10:46:48 GMT -6
birdlives: They probably did that because they had a ninja shaver armed with an unmentionable contracted from B&B to make the shave....get your attorney to get full disclosure and video of the shave. If you were touched by a unmentionable, 'sic Fuzzy on them!!
Sept 16, 2017 14:02:47 GMT -6
RocketMan: My wife is a nurse at a local hospital and brought me home a razor they use for such fun - it is an UM style (unmentionable!) made of plastic and dull as a a Derby blade run over some sandpaper - maybe one of those was used???????
Sept 17, 2017 18:28:54 GMT -6
wchnu: Yup Ibet your right. Prolly gave him koodies too.
Sept 17, 2017 18:39:39 GMT -6
wchnu: If I liked him more I might actually feel bad about that.
Sept 17, 2017 18:54:02 GMT -6
wchnu: Did I type...THAT... Outloud???? Oops
Sept 17, 2017 18:54:28 GMT -6
birdlives: I hear nothing....I see nothing.....Hospital Koodies.......Yeaagh!!!! A DE with a Derby!!! NOPE!!! I hear nothing...I see nothing...If I go under the anesthesia, I'm taking someone I can trust to WATCH all that business....I can trust you guys, RIGHT ?
Sept 17, 2017 19:18:03 GMT -6
wchnu: Why yessss you can...uhhuh,..sure can...most the time anyway.
Sept 17, 2017 19:35:00 GMT -6
birdlives: What about that Canadian Rocket Dood? Can I trust him too?
Sept 17, 2017 19:38:22 GMT -6
wchnu: Hard to say....but prolly so.
Sept 17, 2017 22:40:17 GMT -6
GarnerPW: I just read what you wrote there Fuzz or should I say Mr. Fuzz. And all this time I thought you liked me.
Sept 18, 2017 4:38:29 GMT -6
GarnerPW: Don't trust him there Bird. You know what they say, "You can't trust the Man/Fuzz". The Canuck, is alright though.
Sept 18, 2017 4:43:20 GMT -6
birdlives: I don't know......Have you seen what that crazy Canuck does in a bath tub?
Sept 18, 2017 13:31:26 GMT -6
GarnerPW: No what???
Sept 18, 2017 13:33:24 GMT -6